When former (is there really such a thing?) US Navy SEAL Ben Smith left his comments here at a post I published on April 22 ( US Navy SEAL Ben Smith: “You are no less important than our troops fighting overseas.” ), it prompted a spirited conversation in the comments section between “Nikki”, a liberal, and Dave from Dallas. I’m reprinting Dave’s most recent offering which puts everything in proper context. Read it and see if you don’t agree.
Thank you Dave from Dallas for taking the time and making the effort to teach Nikki and other liberal “thinkers” out there that there IS evil in the world. As Glenn Beck says “The Truth is like fire”. And Dave, you’ve set a blaze that’s shining a bright light on the reality of good and evil.
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Nikki,
I grew up apolitical. No mention of it at home, no interest in it. Divorced parents, no religion, no church, no real guidance of any kind except a father who was kind of angry and confused that anger with desire to teach discipline to his sons. I got a lot of discipline that was thinly veiled anger. Didn’t talk to my dad much for the first ten years of adult life. I got over it, he got older, and we talk a lot now, but still not about important things. Mom’s okay but not smart about anything really.
I was a late bloomer with no particular positive or negative influences toward or against any political views. As I’ve said, when I was younger I thought liberalism was the ‘cool, smart’ view and so I echoed it, not out of belief or even comprehension but because I wanted to be seen as smart and cool, for ALL the reasons young men want that. abortion was about a woman’s right, vietnam soldiers were baby killers, rich guys were evil and greedy…
I do not believe I’m alone in this. I think lots of young people adopt the leftist view out of a desire to seem smart and cool, and compassionate, and caring, and ‘better’ than those other people who are so greedy and evil and piggish. This phenomenon is why Churchill (I think) said if you’re under thirty and not a liberal, you have no heart, but if you’re over thirty and not a conservative you have no BRAIN. Life’s lessons teach conservatism.
I’ve had failures and successes, and I’ve confronted some real evil and realized that ‘good vs. evil’ is not a game. There is evil in the world. My best friend is black, but also in 1991 a black man carjacked and raped and murdered my wife.
OCD101 would say I’m lying about the first, and the second is the reason I am a RRAAAACCIIISSTT. she has issues. ![]()
But for me, far too often ‘compromise’ is sought when instead the side of ‘good’ ought to be supported. I cannot find a moderate position halfway between the surgeon and the tumor. Compromise on principle leads to abandonment of principle every time.
I suspect what Ben was talking about wasn’t so much changing minds as adding needed information so that whatever conclusion we draw is an informed one. Many people do not realize the extent of the deep philosophical grounding in Marxism that many of our present crop of leaders have. Many people do not know the dreadful tragic history of Marxism whenever it has been this close to actual power. Many have heard of gulags but do not fully understand that they are the end of the road for any all powerful government which makes dissent unpatriotic and illegal. I hear all about the crusades and the inquisition every time anyone wants to respond to arguments about 100 million dead under Marxism. But the crusades and the inquisition were hundreds of years ago and killed thousands of people, some of whom were Islamic warriors who would be fighting someone else if not the crusaders. Islam was spread by the sword at the command of its prophet. It was a warrior religion.
Marxism killed 100 million people within the past hundred years… and more still, if you go before Marx and discover many of his ideas were implemented in the French Revolution.. the guillotine took the heads off a LOT of ‘bourgeouisie’ 200 years ago, and the result was mass starvation and unemployment and chaos. Napoleon had an easy road to power, because the great experiment of “the rights of Man” had failed so tragically. Marxism leads to Nazism and Fascism and to all the other ‘isms’ of the left. History shows it, clear as day. As George Bernard Shaw famously said, “I don’t want anyone to suffer, but there are an awful lot of people I”d like to kill”. A respected Brit writer, but a Marxist with racial superiority issues. His work led directly to the development in Germany of Zyklon B, the gas used in the camps to kill Jews. It was intended as a painless death, but the Nazis figured out it was actually very painful. By then, they didn’t care. Presumably, neither did Shaw.
DId you know that Chairman Mao fancied himself an expert on agriculture? He once gave an order that rice be planted deeper than it had been planted for thousands of years before. He believed the seeds would grow stronger plants if they had more dirt to fight through. This was NOT a suggestion, and the farmers did it. For this and other similar reasons, tens of millions of people STARVED to death. It seems idiotic now, but the example is clear. This government of ours has less than ten percent of its appointed experts with ANY BUSINESS EXPERIENCE. That is three or four times less business experience than any previous American government. Even Geithner, the finance savior, recently admitted all his previous jobs were about creating policy, and he never actually had a REAL job.
Ben wants people to know these things. The conclusions draw themselves. I do not take any pride in holding fast to my conclusions. They are drawn from facts, and if facts emerge that contradict me, I am happy to draw new conclusions. I try to stay informed for this reason.
I do NOT bend on my principles. They help me draw my conclusions. But my mind can be changed on those conclusions with information, and Ben is using his training to think strategically about dispensing that information. It is, actually, a war. His training is hugely important. I was not a soldier, but I”m a fighter in this war.


WOW! I would love to post this on my FB page. Wonderful insights beautifully expressed.
Feel free, Linda.
And thanks Radio Patriot for the props. Keep reading that comments page. I”m on a roll…
Hey RP
Here’s a link to the video I made with Benjamin Smith when we were in DC together for Tax Day.
Ben makes a great interviewer! I’m working on lots of other stuff with him in it, will advise.
thanks again
Dave
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To Dave in Dallas: Love your YouTube page (or whatever the heck they call that ‘social networking thing). I pretty much think it says all there is to say about you. You are a hater but you can describe it any way you like. If attacking people with views that don’t mirror yours, makes you feel better and maybe even a little bit more intelligent, I say “go for it.”
Have you ever had a CIVIL conversation with someone who held opposing views or do you always go for the jugular and try to discredit and embarrass that person? Just wondering because you seem very angry to me. You’ve yet to explain what rights you’ve lost under this president but you do an awful lot of quoting from the Frank Luntz’s and “right wing radicals” without so much as questioning their collectively disprovable diatribes.
I have formed no opinions regarding what may or may not have happened to or with your wife except to say I am sure it was a tragedy beyond comprehension and my heart goes out to your for your loss. I lost a child at a very young age and I have never recovered from that tragedy but nor do I use it to try to elicit sympathy or rationalize ANY of my views. You, on the other hand, seem to think your tragedy transcends everyone else’s and it gives you the right to throw arrows of disinformation at people who disagree with your viewpoints. Tragedy is personal and should never be used to justify anything – like racism, hatred, fringe views and attacks that are based on talking points and fictionalized accounts of things. Without referring me back to far right wing epistles, let’s see some ACTUAL proof of half of what you say. There are statistics out there that can either back up your claims or rip them to shreds. Do you want me to help you find them? You won’t get them from Beck or his kind. They live in the same fantasy world that you do and I really do not mean that as an insult. I just want to see some hard evidence of what you claim – sans the pictures of Obama TALKING to ACORN people. Have you read his biography or do you just read Frank’s Luntz’s memos? Just curious. I expect the usual unresponsive response – more name calling and insults!
she’s baaaack.
“fictionalized accounts of things”.
The last six books I’ve read have been two different biographies of Mao (one sympathetic to him and one not), a book on the French Revolution called “The Terror”, a book about Stalin called “Koba the Dread: Laughter and the 20 million” by Martin Amis (he’s referring to 20 million dead Russians btw), and the Annals by Tacitus and the complete works of Josephus.. oh yeah, and “Red October”, a history of the revolution of 1917 and Lenin’s work in it. The book on the French Rev. isn’t quite finished, and there’s a new one in the stack, a biography of Jean Jacques Rousseau.
I have not read any Beck books or any memos by Frank Luntz, not ever. I am interested in larger things than contemporary public opinion. I want FACTS. TRUTH. REALITY.
“go for the jugular, try to discredit or embarrass a person”
what the !@#$%^&* are you talking about? If you feel discredited or embarrassed because you’re unable to respond to the comments I make, that’s your self-confidence problem, sister. I’m not being tricky and I’m not making things up. If “you’re a hater, you lie, you’re a zombie” is the only answer you can give, go back to school. Or tell me exactly what things I’ve said about history are wrong.
You can tell me you’re in your sixties, but I have a very strong feeling you’re actually about sixteen. These comments of yours are HUGELY emotional. Do you live your life this way? Do you argue with those 25,000 employees this way when they disagree with you? Have you EVER used facts and observable reality to back an argument you’ve made? Or are all people who don’t agree with you simply evil, racist, sexist homophobes who hate and who wait for faxes from Luntz every day? How easy life must be when you dehumanize all adversaries. You don’t have to think about ANYTHING.
Good Vs. Evil – HA! I feel like I just stumbled into a DC Comic Book. I’m just waiting for the Green Lantern to start posting.
Dave;
You should start securing permits for empty land in Saugerties NY, and throw your own Snooze-Stock 2010. I am picturing it, the crowd in no time would end up looking alot like Jonestown; the morning after. Just a suggestion……..
Your comments tend to make me doze off, and all I really hear within your words, which seem to be never-ending, is paranoia. I’ll bet you sit at home on your computer, in a room without any outside walls and windows, surrounded by your guns ready to pop off the mailman or anyone who gets too close to your home. You sound SEVERELY paranoid, and you should get that checked out I’m dead serious. What are you growing & Smoking down there in Dallas, huh?
You sound like one of those Crazy 2012 people as well. As OCD101 pointed out, you’ve yet to answer the question about which freedoms you do not have under this president that you had years ago. You’ve given LONG, dragged out (boring) responses on ramblings (in which I had to check my pulse quite a few times to see if I was still alive) and on how Obama is going to single handedly destroy America. What I’m getting from you is just this – and correct me if I’m wrong, but He’s going to be responsible for a massive fall out of biblical proportions, He’s going to destroy the economy, take away ALL of our freedoms, our guns, burn the constitution & spit on the flag, Sign into a law that says we all have to wear 1 piece jumpsuits with only numbers assigned to us, not names, he’s going to ban fishing, hunting , baseball, all books and running sneakers. He’s going to allow Aliens to come down to earth and eat all of our brains (I heard he’s working on these negotiations as we speak, you guys may be the test group – watch out), and He’s also going try to lure in, with his own evil magnetic field, a massive black hole to swallow up the entire earth in split seconds.
Okay I’m now ready for you to tell me I’m 16, or that my arguments are juvenile compared to your (mis)information, and blah blah blah, but really…….. in every single thing you have ever put up in the past few days, all I see is just paranoia, and lots of it. Oh and By the way, I occasionally write Op-Ed’s for a Newspaper in my Area . I live in a city, so just so you know It isn’t the ‘Cow tipping Gazette’ or anything similar to that. So you can insult me all you like, but apparently my writing style isn’t that of a Sixteen year old, according to the big-wigs at my paper, if I get paid for my rants. Satire my friend! Welcome to it.
YaKnow, I was at one point, a fighter for my ‘freedom’ Just like you are. Years ago, as kids, we lived through the dreaded Ice Cream Truck Revolt. The neighborhood kids and I decided that NO ONE would EVER tell us when we wanted Ice Cream! – EVER!. And we thought the Ice Cream man was definitely doing just that! He’d come around every single day during our Freedom summers, telling us we wanted ice cream at 3:30- The bastard!. Us kids,thought we knew better & thought our freedom to decide what we wanted to do and when we wanted to do it, was being Stepped On!. So we went on the attack- When we heard the Ice Cream man’s bells go off, that he was coming, we’d Scream STOP and then hide in the bushes. We showed him! He’d stop the truck and look around, then look like he was questioning himself whether he was losing it or not hearing voices. If my father EVER decided to give me a Dollar to get myself a Snow cone at 3:30, I’d hand him back the Buck and tell him to ‘Stuff it’ and to let me keep my freedom! Thirty-five years later, I look back and see that This ice cream man was just trying to fulfill his dream of Passing Chocolate Cones and similar items through a small glass window. By doing so, trying to make children happy and the world a much nicer & easier place to live. And we were just a crazy paranoid group of Kids, without Ice Cream
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Ridiculous, Yes. But that’s how you sound.
If you were so Angry & outspoken about Bush using TARP (not the TARPS, you guys have Weddings under) funds, then where Is your You-tube clip of Ben interviewing Malik speaking against the Use of those funds ? Where’s the outrage!?!? Surely, they had camcorders back then and people who’ll believe bullshit, didn’t they? Where is Yetemis’ (whatever her name was from the other board) comments on your rants from years ago, telling YOU she’s so proud of you for what youre doing , but then proceeds to say She knows nothing about Politics and telling you to contact her so you can ‘should’ her all about it?
Listen Slingblade, You have yet to convince me of that. Of course you cant scream about things such as the bailout bill, and then proceed to tell me you agreed with T.A.R.P – that would make you a hypocrite, wouldn’t it? And of course, I knew you would say that you were against Bush’s Use of T.A.R.P funds, You’d have to be, in order to get your point across.
And Lastly, I’m guessing here I’m sure you were happy and excited about the Bush’s Wiretapping orders. At least NOW someone was finally listening to your conversations!
I can neither add to nor improve upon this. It is perfect. Thank you Nikki.